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Marcelo Affonso
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17th April 2019 - 1:02 pm
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Hi all 

Marcelo here, 

Just a quick message to introduce myself.  I recently agreed to take care of Aeolis which some of you are acquainted with. She exchanged a few hands and was recently on ebay.....I couldn't possibly say no. 🙂

I will not be able to even see her until the end of the summer but the plan is to make the minimum necessary repairs and get on our way, the luxuries will be dealt with as and when they are needed.  

The internet tells me that twisters are very pretty boats, perfectly proportioned (to my eyes) and very seaworthy. This will be useful for sailing in the South West Coast of Ireland (Kerry) which I where I call home. 

I shall be asking lots of questions once I finish lurking through the forums, but I will keep this message short 

Best!! 

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Stephen Moorey
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17th April 2019 - 7:00 pm
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Hi Marcelo,

Congratulations on your new project.   Shes quite a project and given she has had a few owners try and tackle her I hope you succeed.  what do you intend to do regarding engine ?.  If you need Twister specific items, perhaps this site might be able to help.  

Stephen.

 

Helix  

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John Tetlow
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17th April 2019 - 7:20 pm
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Welcome Marcelo

There is a great store of experience available to you from Twister Class Association members and I am sure we will all be happy to help with any advice you need.

Best wishes

John

"Tammie Norie"

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Justin Butler
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18th April 2019 - 11:42 pm
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Congratulations Marcelo, I am also very impressed with twisters. Does Aeolis come with a mast?

Regards,

Justin

Roquetta

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Marcelo Affonso
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19th April 2019 - 9:48 am
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Stephen Moorey said

Hi Marcelo,

Congratulations on your new project.   Shes quite a project and given she has had a few owners try and tackle her I hope you succeed.  what do you intend to do regarding engine ?.  If you need Twister specific items, perhaps this site might be able to help.  

Stephen.

 

Helix    

 

Thanks Stephen, 

I believe you spent some time with Aeolis too, I read your account on this forum before I decided to get her. And against all good advice I still went for it, it must be that idea of camping with a stove and a sleeping bag that sold it.... 

I am planning to hang an outboard on the transom. I am not sure if that will work well yet but I am reluctant to spend a lot of money on an engine, gearbox, assorted stuffs, making lots of holes in the hull only to spend a lot of time cleaning and maintaining the engine. An outboard I can put over the shoulder and have it serviced once a year for very little. Hopefully it will get me in and out of a marina/mooring.  The only problem I can see is the freeboard, It may be too cumbersome to handle an outboard but I will have to see that in person.  Hopefully that plan will work, if not I am thinking about electric.  what do you think? 

In general the idea is to put very little on the boat. Get sailing as soon as I can and repair things as needed.  

I did consider converting to a junk rig for ease of sailing but I think it will spoil the traditional lines of the boat. I really like the look so I am going to keep her as a sloop, for now anyway.  Hank-on sails  with a synthetic standing rigging.

I am open to all ideas, that is the best part of a project boat 🙂 

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Marcelo Affonso
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19th April 2019 - 10:07 am
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Justin Butler said
Congratulations Marcelo, I am also very impressed with twisters. Does Aeolis come with a mast?

Regards,

Justin

Roquetta  

 

Hi Justin, 

No, Aeolis does not have a mast but Phil had one lined up and he kindly agreed to get that sorted for me. I believe is a little bit longer, about a foot, so will have some extra power 🙂  I have no idea about mast step or reinforcements.  I think I am sold on synthetic rigging. Simple, strong, and easy to maintain, at least in principle 

I saw a lot of videos and read books about rigging a boat and I was quite tempted to do it myself and learn in the process. I think it would be a great idea and a lot of fun but I am getting cold feet.  I should get a proper rigger to do the planning and inspecting at least since it is an important part of the whole thing after all. I am very inexperienced. My boat (still for sale) is a corribee and it was all in working order when I got her so, it was very easy going.  

 

BTW.  I like your videos!! they are inspiring! keep them coming

 

M

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Justin Butler
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19th April 2019 - 4:47 pm
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Hi again Marcelo,

I think as a short term measure, I would also go with a long shaft outboard, although for what you'll pay for it, and the messing about making a bracket to lower it far enough into the water, you could get a used 1GM10 (you'll need one in the end anyway). Electric will cost you alot more in batteries alone. It will increase the weight of the boat alot, and even the best electric systems will only give you 20 miles range.its a nice idea, but electric propulsion is only really viable on submarines at the moment (they used to surface every 12 hours and run diesel generators). Just my opinion of course. Why do you want to go electric?

As you'll have seen in my videos (thanks by the way, it's nice to know people like them confused) I like to do most things myself, I don't think I would make all the standing rigging myself from scratch. Too scarey, failure would be dangerous and expensive.

With every hill you'll have to climb you'll find everyone here helpful and knowledgeable. If you need plans for a mast step I can provide one, I also have a usable 150% genoa you can have, and a spinacker probably when the time comes. I bet you can't wait to see it

regards,

Justin

Roquetta

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Stephen Moorey
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19th April 2019 - 11:23 pm
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Hi Marcelo,

Is Aeolis at Baltic Wharf ?, if so the mast is there together with the main and furler head sail.  Also a nice set of cockpit seats.   I cant imagine a longshaft being long enough, but perhaps I'm wrong.  When you get to see her you will get a better idea what you need.  she needs engine bearers. 

 

If you end up at Baltic working on her make sure you get a cradle nr the river. plenty to watch in summer evenings.  Ive got some genoa tracks your welcome too.  she needs them. 

Good Luck

Stephen

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Marcelo Affonso
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23rd April 2019 - 11:55 am
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Justin Butler said
Hi again Marcelo,

I think as a short term measure, I would also go with a long shaft outboard, although for what you'll pay for it, and the messing about making a bracket to lower it far enough into the water, you could get a used 1GM10 (you'll need one in the end anyway). Electric will cost you alot more in batteries alone. It will increase the weight of the boat alot, and even the best electric systems will only give you 20 miles range.its a nice idea, but electric propulsion is only really viable on submarines at the moment (they used to surface every 12 hours and run diesel generators). Just my opinion of course. Why do you want to go electric?
As you'll have seen in my videos (thanks by the way, it's nice to know people like them confused) I like to do most things myself, I don't think I would make all the standing rigging myself from scratch. Too scarey, failure would be dangerous and expensive.

With every hill you'll have to climb you'll find everyone here helpful and knowledgeable. If you need plans for a mast step I can provide one, I also have a usable 150% genoa you can have, and a spinacker probably when the time comes. I bet you can't wait to see it

regards,

Justin

Roquetta  

 

Sorry for the delay, pesky work, whoever invented the concept ....

For the engine, I am just put off by the maintenance and the holes in the hull, I like a clean bilge if I can manage to stop all the leaks from above 🙂 

Electric will also fit well because of the nearly zero maintenance and no mess, I am hoping to use the engine very little and learn patience, ride with the tide and the wind. It is not a matter of principle or anything like that, more that is something I would like to learn to live with.  I will be good for the brain I think 

Best

Marcelo 

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Marcelo Affonso
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23rd April 2019 - 12:00 pm
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Stephen Moorey said
Hi Marcelo,

Is Aeolis at Baltic Wharf ?, if so the mast is there together with the main and furler head sail.  Also a nice set of cockpit seats.   I cant imagine a longshaft being long enough, but perhaps I'm wrong.  When you get to see her you will get a better idea what you need.  she needs engine bearers. 

 

If you end up at Baltic working on her make sure you get a cradle nr the river. plenty to watch in summer evenings.  Ive got some genoa tracks your welcome too.  she needs them. 

Good Luck

Stephen

Aeolis  

 

Yes Stephen, 

She is in Baltic Wharf, I will only get to go there in the winter though so I will ask if they have a cradle with a view and heating... 

As soon as I know I may contact you for those genoa tracks. Thanks! 

Marcelo

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Stephen Moorey
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23rd April 2019 - 7:02 pm
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Hi Marcelo,

If needed ill come along and identify the mast for you.  They also have the sails and nice cockpit seats in storage. I suspect whoever you purchased Aeolis from, never new of there existance.  when Baltic advertised the boat they did not bother with the items, just wanted the boat to have an owner. 

I might have a few more items your welcome too.

Best Wishes.

Stephen

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Marcelo Affonso
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24th April 2019 - 6:47 pm
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Stephen Moorey said
Hi Marcelo,

If needed ill come along and identify the mast for you.  They also have the sails and nice cockpit seats in storage. I suspect whoever you purchased Aeolis from, never new of there existance.  when Baltic advertised the boat they did not bother with the items, just wanted the boat to have an owner. 

I might have a few more items your welcome too.

Best Wishes.

Stephen  

 

Thanks!! !

I will definitely let you know. 

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