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James Sandells
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26th April 2023 - 10:46 am
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First of all I am a new member so hello to everyone, I currently own both a Peter Duck and the lovely little wisp pictured below towed by Little Nelly !.

The question I wished to ask is I am curious re the engines ..my PD has a beta 35 and my little wisp has a Yama 1GM , the PD weighs 8 Tons and 29’x9’ wisp 1.5 Tons 20 x 7’ .

And I have noticed that many twisters have the Yama 1GM , I am surprised that this engine is powerful enough for the Twister !. If any owners could enlighten Me as regards whether this engine is slightly marginal as regards power I would be grateful?.

many thanks James 

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John MacMullen and Ann Musgrave
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26th April 2023 - 6:24 pm
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Hi James and 'Welcome Aboard'.

In answer to your question .... It depends upon whether you want to motor or sail. If the latter then 10hp is fine as an auxiliary. If you want to motor a lot (but why?) then more horses will give more punch into wind/head sea. Going up the scale from 10hp 14-20hp is the normal range but don't expect to drive a Twister with her relatively short waterline length comfortably to windward. The Twister sails beautifully so why not enjoy that? You've probably guessed, by now, what I've got!

Best Regards

John 

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James Sandells
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26th April 2023 - 10:04 pm
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John MacMullen and Ann Musgrave said
Hi James and 'Welcome Aboard'.

In answer to your question .... It depends upon whether you want to motor or sail. If the latter then 10hp is fine as an auxiliary. If you want to motor a lot (but why?) then more horses will give more punch into wind/head sea. Going up the scale from 10hp 14-20hp is the normal range but don't expect to drive a Twister with her relatively short waterline length comfortably to windward. The Twister sails beautifully so why not enjoy that? You've probably guessed, by now, what I've got!

Best Regards

John 

Thankyou for the reply John  …of course I take your point re motorsailing , I was more interested though in wether the twister is able to punch into the tide if nessarry with 10HP and relatively heavy displacement.

although I am not an owner at the moment it is always useful to get actual owners view points before a possible purchase .

  

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John Tetlow
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26th April 2023 - 10:04 pm
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"Tammie Norie" has a 10hp BUKH and that seems adequate.

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David Hopkins
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27th April 2023 - 1:16 am
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I've got a 2QM15 1978. I have only ever used full revs when I was dashing for a tide gate in the Menai strait when we did 6.5kts for 3 hours into 15kts of wind and light chop. Otherwise When I use the engine in and out of port I'm rarely more than 2000rpm which is less than 10HP. I have already decided that if my old engine ever gives up the ghost I would downgrade to a 10hp as it would be enough power and half the weight of my 2QM15. And half the size too! I like to sail whenever I can and consider the engine as a necessity for entering and leaving port only.  

I'm a big fan of Laurent Giles boats having sailed to the Azores on a Vertue, but Holman really knew how to draw a hull. 

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James Sandells
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27th April 2023 - 8:39 am
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David Hopkins said
I've got a 2QM15 1978. I have only ever used full revs when I was dashing for a tide gate in the Menai strait when we did 6.5kts for 3 hours into 15kts of wind and light chop. Otherwise When I use the engine in and out of port I'm rarely more than 2000rpm which is less than 10HP. I have already decided that if my old engine ever gives up the ghost I would downgrade to a 10hp as it would be enough power and half the weight of my 2QM15. And half the size too! I like to sail whenever I can and consider the engine as a necessity for entering and leaving port only.  

I'm a big fan of Laurent Giles boats having sailed to the Azores on a Vertue, but Holman really knew how to draw a hull. 

  

Thankyou David 

interestingly I had been considering a vertue up until recently ..however the pressure of business the way things are here lack of staff etc means I Cant even get the PD sorted so another entirely wooden boat would mean 3 wooden boats , with 2 in my yard as it is .

Hence considering a compromise heavy displacement early fibre hull and wooden cabin sides plus some nice wooden finishing pieces , plus of course a pretty boat and good to sail hence the possibility of a twister . And at least that sort of satisfied the wooden boat madness plus vastly reduces the time taken to look after it between sails .

Yes your right re the hull designs but I am a fan of the Laurent Giles sheer and space he managed to design into his boats , the inside of a PD is enormous for her size , hence asking to have a look at a twister . And I will be keeping the wisp for road trips to far fling places and because she is totally wood .

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